A bit of dialog on the Abramic Books (Bibles)

From "How to be a Druid Group"

Brandon Michael Keys

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(''Here Is The Author Who Wrote The Bible'') The Bible is ''Roman Emperor, King Constantine's'' creation as well as Many Other's who Helped him Write it 2000 Years ago that is how Old the Bible is ''From Genesis to Revelations''. All of The Books of the Bible is ''At Least 2000 Years Old'' and was made up and Fabricated for ''Political Reasons'' to Gain more Power in the Region of ''Northwestern Europe''. The ''1ST Council of Nicaea'' was Created by the Early ''Christian Cult Leaders'' of the time and that these Early ''Christian Cult Leaders'' were all coming together in order to Replace ''REAL HISTORICAL HISTORY'' for a Fabricated Story that is no Older then at Least 2000 Years old.

For me I don't Believe anything that comes from the Bible because all of the Names and People in it were Made Up and Fabricated in order to Create this ''False Story'' that People have Believed In for over 2000 Years since the Advent of the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire. The Bible came from ROME it was a Roman Creation from out of the ''1ST Council of Nicaea'' and out of ''Roman Emperor, King Constantine'' who Formulated the Final Books that would go in to the Book known as the Bible the word Bible means ''Bibliography''.

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  Ossia Sylva I don't even know where to begin talking, or if it's worth it at all. Wow.

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  Ossia Sylva Okay. I firstly offer my apologies for my initial writing, which I spoke out of outrage. Just a lot of things going on here, and in the light of education, I'd like to posit a few points (if I may).
  
  1) If you are trying to say that the Bible, as we know it, was edited in the First Council of Nicea, then what you say is true. The Council had to determine which books would enter the canon, and they omitted the pieces of what is known today as the Apocrypha, which includes writings on the teenage years of Jesus Christ and a powerful female prophet, as well as stronger writings on Mary Magdalene. It is true, too, that many reasons (including political) fueled this editing and it is, in a way, a work that does not resemble what it used to be, before the First Council. Many things you say are true, but they were said in a way that I don't believe is right, which brings me to my next point.
  
  2) I understand that there is a lot of rage and anger towards Christianity, and the abhorrent crimes that it has committed against many cultures and many religions. I myself share this outrage especially with the cult of Cernunnos, which we know close to nothing about, and the complete eliminations of the records of Lithuanian polytheist. I get it - they've done some really bad things. But that is absolutely NO reason to call the Bible a "fabricated story." I understand that you might be speaking of "fabrication" in the context of editing the books, but if you are speaking from the perspective of the validity of Christianity, I will stop you right there. God/YHWH/Jehovah, Jesus, and Christianity are as valid as Druidry, and it should be worked with, understood, accepted. If you're calling Christ and God false, then what does that mean about your beliefs, and your god/s (if any)?
  
  Be very careful with what you say and the research you put into it, and even more careful with how you approach writing it.

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  Janice Scott-Reeder King Ossa, you are half right. There are way more books than are contained in the Apocrypha which were omitted. Any reference to reincarnation was omitted as it conflicted with the economically viable theory of sacrifice now and get paid after death they were promoting. It also cut into the revenue of the Church they were creating which had no source of revenue and needed to convince people to pay for salvation rather than it being a DYI project. Oddly, up until the mid 80's, the Catholic church taught Astrology to their priests as one of my friends and an astrologer was an ex-priest. When I asked him where he learned astrology since there was only one school in Miami at the time, he told me in seminary. The Bible is based on oral stories handed down generations before the actual "book" was written by Constantine. So, put five people in a line and have the first person read a short sentence, whisper it to the next person and so forth. Then have the last person tell you the sentence. I am not kidding. Give it a try. This is also like having 5 witnesses to an accident all give you different versions of what happened but differing stories are totally believed as truth by each one. The Bible is not a fabrication but a rehash of ancient Sumerian through Egyptian and Greek stories of THEIR gods. Sumer was Egypt and the Jewish Leader originated in Egypt, took a trip to Caucasus Mountains where he not only got the ridiculous idea for circumcision but returned wearing those stupid heavy clothes, hat and for women; veils to the desert to reclaim his empire which was ruled by the true king, his brother. Hence, the birth of Judaism. The first books of the Bible are the Old Testament which just happen to be the books of the Judaic Bible, though theirs is a tad more accurate. You have to keep in mind that rather than a religious testament, the Jews consider the old Testament to be a HISTORY of their people. The Torah is the actual religious document detailing the rules for living. The Old Testament was never intended to be a lifestyle guide. As I said before, Jesus was their made-up hero to quell the rebellion in the ranks... hey, it's a desert there is just so long you can convince men to cut on their winkie and women to wear ridiculously hot clothes... and hence they need the "savior" they had been promising for many generations. With a life expectancy of less than 30, you can see how people were getting a little restless over a few hundred years. That's around 7-8 generations every 100 years. You can also see how anything reported orally would have one whopping margin of error. The New Testament is the highly questionable work detailing the life of this mythical Jesus as written by guys who knew someone who said they knew him close to a hundred generations later. If they had had Facebook, we would probably have photoshopped pictures to go with it. So, Constantine hijacked the old Testament because he couldn't get the Jews to convert unless he gave them something and to give the New Testament his scribes were busily concocting from old legends a basis in reality. If you want to sell fiction, you have to add some fact and then elaborate or embellish. Now 600 years later comes a man named Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim who united the Arabic (they were Jews) population under a single religion called Islam because he felt the Jews were not following the Torah and the Christians were just waaaaaay too liberal with everything. He proceeds to write the Koran as dictated by an angel as would John Smith around 1,200 years later. The similarities between Mormonism and Islam have been well explored and one can't help but wonder who got left out at the 600 year mark in 1200 AD.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2647707/posts The 1200 AD period contains a lot of contendors including Genghis Khan who invades China, captures Peking (1214), conquers Persia (1218), invades Russia (1223), dies (1227) and loads of new Christian leaders breaking from the Catholic church but never attaining any note. This was also the period of Crusades whose leaders were each trying to out do the other one in destroying a very scientifically advanced culture in the Middle East in addition to robbing it blind. The next possible leader would arrive in 2400 so we have a while. But back to the Bible which was rewritten by King James to reflect what he needed for economic and political power and bears not so much resemblance to the original. The first version by Constantine was designed to create a new economic model of the world ruled by a royal class ordained and descended from God (divine right), a peasant class who would owe their existence to the Royals who owned them, a priest caste the Royals could use to control the peasants with a con job of everything will be fine as soon as you die is you obey God's representatives and kin on earth: the Kings, and a Merchant class to carry goods between countries which were of course the territories of Divine Kingship. If they left the protection of their castle, the kind next door, that pious descendant of God might kill them and take over their lands and peasants and you all know, he who dies with the most slaves, is still pretty dead. You might want to note that only the Priests and the royal scribes would read and write in the end and the royal scribes were taught by the priests, hence the Church controlled what history was recorded. The Kings tend to forget that. The system depended on a uneducated lower class of workers that would follow what they were told God dictated in the Bible, not what was actually written which was mostly misinterpreted to start with to reflect what they needed at the moment...... History appears to be repeating itself.
  

  
  

  
  

  

  
  

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